Trevor B
6:25 Fri May 27
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1st degree muster???
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Hermit Road
6:07 Fri May 27
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Not sure how you can muster someone in a messy garage and not leave one shred of physical evidence. You'd have to be a criminal mastermind, in fact, you'd probably be so clever that you wouldn't murder someone in a messy garage.
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Northern Sold
5:31 Fri May 27
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Anyone seen that Life on Death Row on the BBC ?? Thought that was some superb TV...
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Ricky Bobby
3:45 Fri May 27
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Just finished watching it this weekend... Well, I watched all 10 episodes over the two days :S
You can easily fall into the defence side of this story... Like a lot of evidence not seen by the two lawyers for Avery we also missed a lot of evidence from the State.
Lenk all day from me though, surprised he hasn't been bumped off yet
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Takashi Miike
1:45 Wed Jan 27
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this is worth a look. apparently kratz sent this letter to avery begging him to confess. eight years after being imprisoned but before 'making a murderer' was filmed
http://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/making-a-murderers-ken-kratz-wrote-a-letter-that-will-make-you-dislike-him-even-more/ar-BBoI0aF?li=AAaxjhv&OCID=DELLDHP
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Feed Me Chicken
8:53 Tue Jan 26
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Just binged watched this (as everybody should).
Incredible doc, a big thing for was the defence saying 7 of the 12 jurors were initially saying not guilty but got turned round by the "stubborn guilty" jurors, perhaps the police got to 1 or 2 of the jurors aswell.
Imo they both definitely got framed.
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Nurse Ratched
8:14 Tue Jan 26
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Did I remember it wrong, then?
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Alan
8:07 Tue Jan 26
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Nurse Ratched 7:55 Tue Jan 26
Nurse, I watched every episode, waiting for that game-changer to drop on the prosecution like a bolt from god - but it didn't happen.
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Nurse Ratched
8:05 Tue Jan 26
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Trev 1:16
Now this is potentially very interesting indeed.
If they key (obviously) planted by the coppers turned out to be a spare key, and not the one used by Teresa on a day-to-day basis, it begs the question, where was the spare key kept, and how did the copper get hold of it? Just a search of Teresa's home? Or did someone give it to them?
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Trevor B
7:56 Tue Jan 26
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Indeed, and even the prosecution realised that with a 12 person jury from manitowoc they HAD to make sure they weren't overly accusing local law enforcement of planting evidence, even when they thought they had.
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Nurse Ratched
7:55 Tue Jan 26
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"Trev, in one of the episodes, they said that the key DID have Avery's DNA on it but nobody else's - not even Theresa Halbach's. Which made it even more likely that it was planted. I couldn't understand why they didn't follow that up"
I think the defence did bring this up during the trial, Alan. At least I THINK I remember it. But every time they alluded to the possibility of planted evidence, the prosecution made a big dramatic pearl-clutching song and dance about HOW DARE THEY besmirch the reputation of these FINE law enforcement officers...
It seemed to do the trick.
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Alan
7:32 Tue Jan 26
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Trevor B 1:16 Thu Jan 21
"Teresa Halbach's infamous car key, found by police in Avery's bedroom under suspicious circumstances, proved crucial in the case against Steven - despite the fact that it contained zero Avery DNA."
Trev, in one of the episodes, they said that the key DID have Avery's DNA on it but nobody else's - not even Theresa Halbach's. Which made it even more likely that it was planted. I couldn't understand why they didn't follow that up.
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Pancho
7:24 Tue Jan 26
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522 on Sky?
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Pancho
7:24 Tue Jan 26
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ID?
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Josh
7:14 Tue Jan 26
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What channel?
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Pancho
7:12 Tue Jan 26
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Nice one Billy will record that
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Far Cough
7:10 Tue Jan 26
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Haha, yeah remember that?
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collyrob
7:10 Tue Jan 26
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"Hey Kia remember that time I helped you"
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Far Cough
7:07 Tue Jan 26
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collynob
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collyrob
7:05 Tue Jan 26
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I'll have a bit of that, cheers only1 son!!
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only1billybonds
6:59 Tue Jan 26
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Sat night 10pm. Discovery investigation channel.
There's a follow up revealing startling fresh evidence.
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